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GlennaGirl · December 12th, 2006, 01:25 PM

Can we revisit messy buns?

What's your take on them? Damaging? Not? A bunch of hair sticks out. Does it get damaged just from being flicked against your neck as you turn your head and go about your day?

What I'm thinking about is something along the lines of, say, this:

Oh my GAWRD but does that look damaging. Holy hanna.

And yet, two seconds later, when I take it down, it looks like this...not really so damaged, right?

Hey, that pic looks sort of cool. Go camera flash. I feel a new siggie pic coming on.

So...any thoughts?

LusciousG · December 12th, 2006, 01:36 PM

I doubt they're very damaging. But I personally dislike them. I grew out layers so that I wouldn't have distracting little wisps against my face when I worked out or just worked. And...well...they're messy. I like orderly things.

DMARTINEZ · December 12th, 2006, 02:08 PM

I wouldnt think they are damaging unless they are tight. I do the same
thing as your pic with my hair for just hangin around the house.

ruby_tuesday · December 12th, 2006, 02:33 PM

I don't see how messy buns can be any different than other type of buns. It's just that a messy bun will leave your hair in "disorder" while a proper bun or a braid creates smooth waves and illusion of healthy hair, because it looks more "in order". But your hair doesn't look damaged to me, not even after a messy bun.

ladiosaRosa · December 12th, 2006, 04:01 PM

There is such a wide range of "messy" bun or updo styles; some with ends tucked and some with ends out.

I prefer the look of a messy bun for me but would have to say I wear more tidy buns/twists. When I do go messy, my ends are usually tucked. I haven't detected any damage.

GlennaGirl · December 12th, 2006, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ladiosaRosa

There is such a wide range of "messy" bun or updo styles; some with ends tucked and some with ends out.

I prefer the look of a messy bun for me but would have to say I wear more tidy buns/twists. When I do go messy, my ends are usually tucked. I haven't detected any damage.

That sounds cool. Can you tell me how you do a messy bun with the ends tucked?

Clare-Dragonfly · December 12th, 2006, 04:20 PM

Is that what a messy bun is? I've always thought of those as "half-ponytails". I hate them. My hair always gets so tangled trying to get out of them.

If that isn't the case for you, though, I don't see why they would be particularly damaging. Probably not as protective as full, neat updos, but not nearly as damaging as wearing it down, either.

GlennaGirl · December 12th, 2006, 04:57 PM

Well, all right then. Would this qualify as a messy bun?

I have a ponytail holder in it. You can see it in the picture. It's black. I couldn't get hold of all my slippery hair this way otherwise. (It's easier when I scrunchee it.) It's just a really loose cinnamon bun, but it's bobby pinned--another thing I basically never do. I had to scrounge to find the pins. There are five of them in the hair.

What do you all think? I've been trying to do hairstyles for two years and seriously can only do the cinnabon with a scrunchee which makes it very small/tight, and a ponytail. I am REALLY frustrated. I can't see having long hair if I can't enjoy it and I feel like I'm the only one who is totally incapable of coming up with these gorgeous hairstyles.

HairColoredHair · December 12th, 2006, 06:58 PM

Those damage my hair mainly due to tangling about everything in sight while pulling itself free... I do see a lot of people wearing them... I guess I usually wonder why they don't just wear a bun... but that's probably because I can't manage the 'messy' look.

ShadowCandy · December 12th, 2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GlennaGirl

Well, all right then. Would this qualify as a messy bun?

I have a ponytail holder in it. You can see it in the picture. It's black. I couldn't get hold of all my slippery hair this way otherwise. (It's easier when I scrunchee it.) It's just a really loose cinnamon bun, but it's bobby pinned--another thing I basically never do. I had to scrounge to find the pins. There are five of them in the hair.

What do you all think? I've been trying to do hairstyles for two years and seriously can only do the cinnabon with a scrunchee which makes it very small/tight, and a ponytail. I am REALLY frustrated. I can't see having long hair if I can't enjoy it and I feel like I'm the only one who is totally incapable of coming up with these gorgeous hairstyles.

Hey, whoa, the bun looks cool and suits you. I would think that would classify as a messy bun, even without the wispy bits. personally, though, I HATE them. They tangle you hair really badly, and getting it out without tangling your hair and pulling it out is really hard.

But I like that bun GlennaGirl.

Who says you're bad at it? :hugs:

GlennaGirl · December 12th, 2006, 07:12 PM

Aw, thanks, ladies. I just get super-frustrated sometimes...I am ALL thumbs. Every hairstyle is hard for me to do. But I'll keep practicing...and I was actually pretty pleased with that last bun. It gives the look of a lot more hair, too. And the bobby pins don't feel damaging.

ShadowCandy · December 12th, 2006, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GlennaGirl

Aw, thanks, ladies. I just get super-frustrated sometimes...I am ALL thumbs. Every hairstyle is hard for me to do. But I'll keep practicing...and I was actually pretty pleased with that last bun. It gives the look of a lot more hair, too. And the bobby pins don't feel damaging.

See? There you go.

Have you tried plating your hair first, then putting that in a bun? That looks nice. Or you could tie your hair into a low ponytail, plat the length, then without putting a tie on the bottom, bring them under the pony tail and gently tuck then in the ponytail holder. That also looks nice.

Hella · December 12th, 2006, 07:27 PM

That messy bun looks like the way my hair is kept up all the time. I don't do anything else than messy buns. I hate all kinds of pins that get in my hair when I try to take it down. I like to take my hair down, put it up and take it down again many times during the day. The only options for doing that are big clips and basic ponytail holders, because there wouldn't be any idea to do a better, more secure bun again and again.

The ponytail holder is something that does create some amount of damage for me. That's why I now try to use the clip more, it's also very quick and easy to put back after switching hair down and up for a million times. But, I have layers so I can't even achieve really anything else than somewhat messy updos.

I like the messy bun you showed, GlennaGirl. Looks very good on you, and isn't even too messy - some of mine define the word "messy" to the letter!

ShadowCandy · December 12th, 2006, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hella

That messy bun looks like the way my hair is kept up all the time. I don't do anything else than messy buns. I hate all kinds of pins that get in my hair when I try to take it down. I like to take my hair down, put it up and take it down again many times during the day. The only options for doing that are big clips and basic ponytail holders, because there wouldn't be any idea to do a better, more secure bun again and again.

The ponytail holder is something that does create some amount of damage for me. That's why I now try to use the clip more, it's also very quick and easy to put back after switching hair down and up for a million times. But, I have layers so I can't even achieve really anything else than somewhat messy updos.

I like the messy bun you showed, GlennaGirl. Looks very good on you, and isn't even too messy - some of mine define the word "messy" to the letter!

Heey, I read your journal yesterday. You like Orchids. Lol.

But yeah, it's not the bun itself that's the problem, it's taking it out. Major ouchies. >.>

Cayda · December 12th, 2006, 11:26 PM

Mind if I ask what kind of ponytail holder you're using? I used to have lots of ouchies when I was using the regular kind with the metal attaching-part. I find the metal free kinds that just have a bit of glue are much less painful, and they come thicker so they don't damage my hair nearly as much. Thicker seems less painful too. Only problem with them is that they don't seem to last as long before stretching out permanently.

I just twist my hair into a not so neat bun all the time and it has definitely gotten easier with more length. I think it depends on your hair type for how long it needs to be before the wispys stop being everywhere, I've just now gotten there for me but then my hair has a serious mind of its own sometimes. Oh, and I'm right there with you on the "How the heck?!" of some of these updos. I'm still in the braid, bun, and pony stage.