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rosepetal · May 14th, 2003, 11:59 AM

Has anyone tried using one of the Kaolin clays (white, pink, or yellow) as a shampoo substitute? If so, were you pleased with the results? Thank you!!!

zoya_ · May 14th, 2003, 04:15 PM

I use Rhassoul clay a lot and like it very much. Never tried other clays

Heidi · May 14th, 2003, 04:32 PM

Hi Rosepetal, I've had success with bentonite and French green clay for shampooing. Haven't tried others yet.

I've used kaolin on my face before, and it acted much the same way as the bentonite, French green and fuller's earth, so I imagine it wouldn't be too much different for my hair.

Let us know your results if you try it!

Rachel · May 14th, 2003, 04:37 PM

Zoya and Heidi - would you mind posting the method of how you use the clays? Is it just a sort of "extend the time between wash days" sort of thing?

Thanks!

zoya_ · May 15th, 2003, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rachel

Is it just a sort of "extend the time between wash days" sort of thing?

No, for me it is just a regular wash - just sometimes I do it with CO, sometimes I switch to Rhassoul or Shikakai/amla/aretha mix.

The Rhassoul I buy comes as rocks, so I take one piece and add a little bit of water to it and let it sit for 3-5 minutes. The clay absorbs water and probably triples its size and becomes a very soft paste. At this point I add some EO and then I distribute it all over my hair (sometimes I need to add more water, if the paste is too thick) and again let it sit there. Then I wet my hair a little and work clay into my scalp, trying to catch the 'clayy' water into some bowl - I repeat this several times. Then I rinse , rinse, rinse. And that's it.

smiles · May 15th, 2003, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rosepetal

Has anyone tried using one of the Kaolin clays (white, pink, or yellow) as a shampoo substitute? If so, were you pleased with the results? Thank you!!!

rosepetal, no, i havent used kaolin by itself, but I washed my hair with MM water today and well, its become a habit for me to read the contents while i massage the scalp with conditioner or recently, MM. guess what? MM water has kaolin clay in it. so, guess it should be good for hair.

and yes, i tried MM with AO GPB for WC as you suggested. it was pretty good for me, especially i had a very good hair day the next day. usually my no wash days suck! but i breezed through the after wash-day. thanks!

JennaPea · May 15th, 2003, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by smiles

rosepetal, no, i havent used kaolin by itself, but I washed my hair with MM water today

smiles, what do you mean by MM water?

Heidi · May 15th, 2003, 08:01 AM

Rosepetal, I mix a couple of tablespoons of the clay with a dollop (about one tablespoon) of molasses and then mix in a little warm water to give it a consistency that's loose enough to be easy to spread, but thick enough to scoop with my fingers. It is easy enough to apply to dry hair, so I make little parts and get it on the scalp at the top around my face and at the crown.

At one point I was using this as my sole cleanser, every other day. At this point, I'm switching off with my Earth Science shampoo/conditioner. I hope to get back to the clay only, as it worked well. I will say that I miss having a slippery conditioner to use afterward.

smiles · May 15th, 2003, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JennaPea

smiles, what do you mean by MM water?

oops, sorry!.. i meant morrocco method shampoo - Water.
http://www.morroccomethod.com/shampsea.html

i'm trying to go natural.... using MM seems very easy.... so i'm giving this a try.

smiles · May 15th, 2003, 10:39 AM

doh!!!!! i knew i did something stupid.

how can i not relate earth and clay

here we go... http://www.morroccomethod.com/shampearth.html

rosepetal · May 15th, 2003, 10:49 AM

Thanks everybody!!!

I am happy with my Morrocco Method shampoos, except for the fact that, since they updated the formula, all 4 shampoos now darken my hair a bit.

I thought that perhaps using the paler clays as a shampoo would mimic the effects of the MM without the discoloration???

http://www.fromnaturewithlove.com/soap/Clays.asp

Heidi · May 15th, 2003, 11:26 AM

I believe that the fullers earth (multani mitti) and the rhassoul clay are the two that have been used most often in commercial formulas and traditionally by Eastern women for hair cleansing. The other clays, like the bentonite and kaolins are traditionally used for skin, in masks and face lotions and sunscreens. I'm not sure why, but I have read that the bentonite, being so fine, can eventually lead to clogged pores. I used it when it was all I had, but would have preferred to use the multani mitti. It is also a pale color, almost white.

What color is the Terressentials?

_banshee · May 15th, 2003, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by zoya_

I use Rhassoul clay a lot and like it very much. Never tried other clays

Zoya, what's your hair like after using Rhassoul. I used it a couple of times and after rinsing the clay out my hair feels really clean but after drying it feels kind of stiff and thick (but soft at the same time if that makes any sense - it kind of feels like wool LOL) as if something had built up on my hair (didn't use any conditioner or other to get the pure effect). Also it seems to have a drying effect as my hair gets quite frizzy.
What are you'e experiences and how long have you been using it?

rosepetal · May 15th, 2003, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Heidi

What color is the Terressentials?

Hmmm... the Terressentials is a medium brown mud color, but it doesn't stain the hair... for some reason???

The new MMs are a similar muddy color, but they tend to temporarily (until the next wash) stain pale hair.

smiles · May 15th, 2003, 11:45 AM

i wonder how i can prepare my own clay stuff, thats looks like an MM mixture. i mean something that i can store as well. no mixing in the morning every day.

anybody got any ideas?