View Full Version : More questions re. washing with clay!
March 8th, 2004, 02:59 PM
I just tried the Terressentials again (couldn't wait til morning): wet hair a little, applied Terressentials as best I could*, massaged, wet hands, massaged, wet hands, rinsed, rinsed, ACV'ed, used honey, was still concerned with how hair felt under the water, conditioned with Suave coconut (the first conditioner I could reach that was non-cone).
Results: much better than last time (Thank you all for the advice) but I'm still not quite sold on the Terressentials yet.
*Help needed: I clearly do not understand how one is supposed to wash with clay. Could someone please give me "washing with clay for dummies" instructions (for in the shower)? I used about half a bottle and I still couldn't get the clay distributed to all of my scalp and much of my hair... even not including my length. (And should I be using this on my length? I just let it wash over the length when I rinsed.)
Okay, that's my little saga for the evening.
March 8th, 2004, 05:05 PM
Here is what I do:
(Note: I tried the Terressentials. Mint worked best for me. It was too expensive, so now I mix Laverade dry clay with either honey or mollasses. I think the humectant properties of the honey/molasses make a tremendous difference in how the clay works for me and I do not plan to go back to the premixed.)
That said, I found it worked best to apply the clay (a film canister's worth dry mixed with a tbsp or so humectant and water to make a rather thin paste) to my -dry- hair and scalp. I put some on my fingertips and massage it down the center from forhead hairline to nape (as if making a part.) Then I put a bit more on my fingertips and massage it from the side hairline upward toward the crown on both sides. Then I apply some to the nape area again working from the hairline upward. Lastly I smooth a bit down the length. When I get in the shower I let a bit more water mix in and then "shampoo" the clay into my scalp with my fingertips.
I rinse the way I described in my post to you below. I find that when I clay wash I can not use protein based conditioners, only jojoba.
March 8th, 2004, 07:58 PM
Gosh, Elspeth and I mix and apply our clay just about the same--I don't apply mine to the length however. I use kaolin, French Green (not my favorite, but I have a lot of it) or Fuller's Earth, and mix it with molasses and a bit of warm water. Occasionally I use some Indian herbs if I have them (neem, aritha, etc.).
I detangle my hair before applying the mix. Once I apply it, I let it sit for a minute or two while I go about my morning duties. Then I rinse. I don't use conditioner aftward, but I'll use a bit of oil or an ACV rinse.
March 9th, 2004, 02:49 AM
I think it was one of you posts that originally inspired me to try the molasses.
I was hoping you would see this thread because I know you know a lot about clay washing.
March 9th, 2004, 03:02 AM
I was wondering, does any of you clay girls have problems with static? I tried Terressentials a couple of times and the static almost killed me. My favourite conditioners didn't seem to do anything after washing with clay.
And I got buildup real quick - it was the kind of buildup that made my hair feel soft and tangle free, but it took away the shine and made it look dull.
Regarding distribution of clay, I wash "upside down" while bent over the tub. That together with the fact that my hair is thin made it easy to apply the clay. With any non-foaming cleansers that's what I do: Rub 2/3 of what I want to use between my palms, stroke with one palm down from nape to crown, rub palms again, smooth one along my scalp in the front to the crown, rub palms again and distribute from the temples back to the crown. Always lifting my hair with the fingers as I go. Then I take the remaining third, lift some hair in the back and apply directly to the crown area. Massage a little all over.
Sounds complicated, but takes about 30 seconds.
March 9th, 2004, 07:52 AM
apply the clay... to my -dry- hair and scalp....Lastly I smooth a bit down the length. When I get in the shower I let a bit more water mix in and then "shampoo" the clay into my scalp with my fingertips.Yes! This is almost exactly what I do with clay-based shampoos.
I basically separate my hair into 2 sections: (1) scalp and (2) length.
Scalp: I use clay-based shampoos directly on my dry scalp to cleanse my scalp.
Length: I use conditioners (instant-type or ACV rinses) to cleanse my length.
And I use water to rinse it all out! Very important to rinse well with clays. Otherwise, the clay particles really bulk up your hair.
March 10th, 2004, 11:19 AM
So I tried again this morning with the Terressentials Mint. I mixed the Terressentials with honey and distilled H2O. It was easier to apply, but I still didn't feel like I was getting a lot to my scalp. Oh well. I left it on for about ten minutes (got distracted) and then got in the shower. I wet my hands and then tried to massage my scalp some more. I think I let the clay sit for too long because it kind of dried my hair into the postion I had left it. (It looked really cool, actually.) I rinsed and rinsed. I applied some honey + conditioner to length, and then did my best to comb/detangle before rinsing since it has been so hard to do it afterwards.
Better than the previous attempts, but I'm still not impressed. The only things I like is that my scalp itches much less than with any other method.
Any suggestions on how long to try before giving up?
Madeleine, I had static from the "Spice" that wouldn't go away even when I applied water and jojoba. So far it doesn't seem that the "Mint" left me with static, but my hair is still damp.
March 11th, 2004, 03:08 AM
If you tried the "swishing in a container" method (which as far as I can tell from experience and reading other posts is the best way to rinse out clay, cleansing powders or henna) then my last thought would be to take a break from the Terressentials and if you have a chance try plain clay that you mix yourself before use, like the Laverade.
It can be really hard to work out a good routine, since no one routine works for everyone's hair all the time (as the journals here show clearly!)
P.S. Madeleine - I did not have trouble with static but our hair texture is different, so that might be a factor.
March 11th, 2004, 04:55 AM
I did swish my hair in a container to rinse the 2nd time I used the clay, but I forgot this last time, silly me.
Actually, I was about to give up. It would be a waste to have put my hair through all this just to give up, but my Spring Break is almost up, and then I won't have time to deal with confused hair. I guess I should have waited until the summer (when I have more than one week off, and even if I teach it is only one class).
Yeah, I'll just put this down to a "detox" for now, and go back to more commercial methods.
Thank you so much for all the tips. I'm going to save the info so when I try again I won't be so confused.
- She who is slave to commercial products :wink:
August 10th, 2004, 01:12 PM
on their website, Terressentials recommends washing your hair with the clay wash 3 times the first time, twice the next 2 times, and only once the times after that (basically after your hair has detoxed).