I tried this and it worked REALLY well! Honey + oil hadn't worked for me in the past, but this really did! It brings out your waves/curls too if you have any and makes your hair super soft!

1 part honey
2 parts conditioner

At least that's the way I did it, I'm sure there must be other ways. My hair is very thick and 28.5" and I used 1 tablespoon as 1 part, so you could adjust according to your hair's thickness and length.

Leia, I just began using the honey/condition mixture, also, and I love it! I thought it would be really sticky, but it's not when it's mixed with conditioner. Great stuff! ;)

GREAT idea, Leia! I think I'll keep this up all winter long. My hair is sooo moisturized!

I tried it, but I didn't really notice too much of a difference.. how much are you supposed to use?

Persephone, I used about 3 tablespoons of goop.. you might need more as your hair is longer than mine. You probably need more conditioner than honey, otherwise it'll be too sticky. How long did you leave it in? You probably need to wait 20 minutes for it to have any effect. Also, I used a deep conditioner with the honey rather than just a regular one - it gave double the effect ;) .

Ooh, really have to try this. Do you use a light conditioner, like you would use for CO, or a richer/heavier one?

Edited to add: Does it rinse out easily?

A-HA! That's what I didn't do. I rinsed it out right away. And I didn't use anything close to 3 tbsp. I'll have to try this again. :)

It rinses out easily, as long as you have more conditioner than honey.

Ooh, really have to try this. Do you use a light conditioner, like you would use for CO, or a richer/heavier one?

Edited to add: Does it rinse out easily?

I tried a heavier conditioner, and had good results with that. And yep, like Persephone said, it does rinse out pretty easily. :D

I have to say I was reluctant to try this because I couldn't imagine that honey would rinse out easily :undecided: . Well I tried it and I love it, my hair has an added sheen. I am a honey/conditioner convert :!:

I've been doing this for a little while routinely when I CWC... just add a big glob to my second C and apply it all at once, let it sit for ten minutes or so, and rinse as usual -- I love it, the effects and the smell (and the tastes I sneak every now and then :D )

WOW, I'm sold! I tried this and
it's amazing how well it helps the
conditioner work!!! I just applied
it to some conditioner I poured in my
hand!!!
WOW, really cool!

I was going to do this, I mixed it up, with twice as much as was said here (2 Tbs being one part) because I always have trouble getting stuff spread through my hair. I took it in the bathroom, but my little sister came banging on the door like the world was about to end so I jumped up to answer the door (because last time I didn't open the door for her she threw up all over the carpet, didn't want to do that again) and I split it all over the floor! ugh! and I didn't want to use MORE honey so I didn't make it again.... :wail:
(and do you know how hard that is to get off the floor?! heh)

How should I use the conditionner mixed with some honey? Is it possible to use it instead of the conditionner used for CO?

HOLY CRAP!

This is the best my hair has felt in a long, long time. Especially on a wash day!

I did my usual CO wash and mixed the honey in with my final conditioner. I let it sit in my hair while I shaved my legs, and it seemed to be enough time. I used 2 tbsp conditioner and 1 tbsp honey. This actually was too much for my shoulder length hair, so next time I'll make a smaller batch.

Has anyone made this as a larger batch and just kept it in a container in the shower. I didn't know how well this would keep. Honey keeps for a long time, doesn't it?

leia, this sounds wonderful... do you just use this without shampooing?

do you think this will work on oiled hair?

This stuff is wonderful! Don't be afraid of the stickiness, because there is no stickiness! :D It leaves my hair very soft and shiney :thumbsup:

What exactly does CO mean?

Bonnie

What exactly does CO mean?

Bonnie

Hi Bonnie!

CO means "Conditioner Only" or "Condition Only". Some of us alternate and use the CO method in place of shampooing occasionally (some more than others).

Martine is the great inventor of the CO method and I, for one, love it! I use it about every other wash. It's very gentle...try it!

I tried the honey and conditioner mix last night, after a C/O wash with a few drops Excelsior Protein Treatment mixed into my washing conditioner. The protein treatment is strong stuff, so I need to balance it with heaps of moisture to avoid the crunchies.
So after the wash I did a deep treatment from roots to tips with about 1 1/2 tea spoons Nivea conditioner mixed with 1/2 tea spoon honey, let sit 15 minutes (no heat), rinsed well. Applied a little more Nivea to the ends for good measure, rinsed again.

Hair feels wonderful, strong and soft at the same time. Extremely shiny (most of that is probably due to the Excelsior treatment though, it gives me Pantene commercial shine like nothing else except maybe henna), and the honey definitely added a lot of moisture and softness. Very nice :)

Is it preferable to use what I call runny honey (the translucent stuff) or Pooh bear honey (the thicker opaque stuff)??

Hm, I only know of one kind: translucent and thickish...

I tried mixing honey (the thin, runny kind) into some Dove conditioner and used it as a CO. I left it in for a few minutes while I shaved my legs and stuff
I don’t like Dove products very much in COs… they’re difficult to rinse out! But mixed with honey it seemed to be easier :thumbsup:
Hair is very soft and slippery, but very un-shiny :ponder:
Another natural product with none or little effect on my hair
My hair laughs at natural products… bring on the cones :silly:

I tried it too but it didn't make much difference.
About honey-all honey i've seen in my life seem to be runny at first and thick after some time. I thought all honeys do things like that.

Um, I have a question. How do you get the honey and conditioner to mix? When I tried it seperated, conditioner on top and honey underneath.

Um, I have a question. How do you get the honey and conditioner to mix? When I tried it seperated, conditioner on top and honey underneath.

I take a bowl and a spoon and stir :)

I personallly just keep a bottle of honey in the shower with me. I'll squirt some conditioner in my hand and then eyeball the proper amount of honey. I mix it together between my palms (no stickiness!) and use like that. Works great for me and keeps it really simple.

I had put them both in a bottle together. I will try is that way next time.

Has anyone made this as a larger batch and just kept it in a container in the shower. I didn't know how well this would keep. Honey keeps for a long time, doesn't it?

I did.
Conditioner has preservatives and honey has also a long shelf life so I don't think there should be any problems. I'd still only make small batches.

Worked well for me :)

Oh geez, now I have to add honey to the "gotta try this" list...Someone stop the insanity!!! Bwhahahahaha!

I love TiGi Honey & Oatmeal conditioner so I'll probably love this, it'll be a lot more natural...like a lot of people, I worried about stickiness and/or tangles.......I don't want to rip out a lot of my hair!

I’m going to buy Suave milk&honey conditioner and add some honey to that ;)

The last time I did this it could have left my hair *slightly* more moisturized- none of the miracle effects you're talking about here though. :(
I think I remember it didn't get dry as fast though; usually by the 3rd day my ends are unbelievably dry, while I think that when I used honey+coditioner they were a little better.
Or perhaps I'm just befuddling myself!

Hmm...I will have to try this :)

Experiment!
Today, I mixed some honey with Aussie 3MM (my current favorite) and warmed it in the microwave. I soaked my ends in the mixture for about 2 minutes, then spread it throughout the length of my hair and wrapped it in a warm, wet towel while I went about my shower business. It hasn't dried yet, but I'll update when it does :)

I've tried this twice so far and the results have been amazing. I never knew my hair could be so soft and silky. The mixture of honey and conditioner isn't sticky at all, and it rinses out of my hair so easily. I'm definitely converted.

After reading this thread I decided to try this and I 'm really happy ,my hair feels so soft and it's so shiny . I'm converted too :pinkgrin: As soon as my camera is repaired I'll take pictures (I hope it's soon , I miss it ,I had just learnt how to use it *sigh* )

Thanks for this "recipe" :flowers:

:flower: Kia

I will chime in and say that I also had excellent results adding honey to conditioner. I have coarse hair that tends to frizz and the honey added softness and shine that I never knew I could have.

I now have a huge bottle of honey in my bathroom and there it will stay.

:cloud9: I love using honey! :cloud9:

Very nice. I was surprised how easily it rinsed out.

Hi! I had to try the honey and conditioner thing after reading your posts, and I have to say that it made my hair very soft and shiny. It smells good, too! The conditioners I use tend to be expensive, so maybe this will help spread them out thinner. :rockerdud

Note to self: Go buy honey!!!!!

I can't wait to try this! Curses Japan - no 24/7 open walmart to go frequent after shift (the one downside to working a night shift has finally been found!)... will have to wait till tomorrow before I go on shift to grab some from the store!
:wannabe:

Hi! I had to try the honey and conditioner thing after reading your posts, and I have to say that it made my hair very soft and shiny. It smells good, too! The conditioners I use tend to be expensive, so maybe this will help spread them out thinner. :rockerdud
i used to use expensive stuff as well, but since i started doing CO's it's just like everyone says, the cheap stuff is way better!

Eowyn, I use conditioners that are on the expensive side too (although I'm trying to wean myself off the £42 a litre one), and I CO. I try to avoid using anything that isn't natural on my hair or skin and that pushes the price up.

Mixing honey with my conditioner is still working very well for me. Lovely soft, shiny, manageable hair. It didn't work so well when I CWCed and the honey got mixed with the shampoo. I could have papered the walls with the mixture and it took me half an hour and a ton of expensive conditioner to get the mess out, and loads of oil to rescue my hair. I think I'm very lucky that my hair's so resilient!!!

For those asking about the two types of honey: I've used both on my hair and the results I get are the same (I prefer to eat the crystallized, so that is usually what I have at home). However, if you are mixing it with conditioner (I don't use a traditional conditioner so I just use the honey by itself) it might be easier to use the runny translucent sort.

HTH

Palonia

I have done the honey + conditioner bit 3 times now since I came across this thread... I'm hooked! Wow! I am sooo glad I found these forums! So much spiffy useful information to be had! :grin: :grin: :grin:

This is great :grin: I had been looking for something new to try where I don't have to go out and buy a bunch of new things (I'm broke till payday, LOL). But I have honey in stock! :D I will definitley be trying this for my next wash :grin:

Honey and conditioner as a deep treatment is my favorite form of DT as of now. :cloud9:

When I CO, adding honey seems to make the rinsing go more easily!

I have tried this twice now with Suave M&H; M&H alone gives me no slip. The honey has really increased the slip factor as I detangled with the mixture in my hair.

I love adding oils and honey to my conditioners b/c this is very moisturizing on my hair.:smile:

Oh! I'm so glad I found this thread! I have added honey to my styling product a couple times, and have really been wanting to add some to my conditioner. A few questions though... Will any conditioner work? How long do you leave it on? TIA!

Oh! I'm so glad I found this thread! I have added honey to my styling product a couple times, and have really been wanting to add some to my conditioner. A few questions though... Will any conditioner work? How long do you leave it on? TIA!

Yes, I think any conditioner will work. I have tried two different ones and they both did just fine.

I use it just like a regular conditioner. The results are amazing. :rockerdud

Meg

Just tried this this morning... it felt so great on my hair! While I still have the frizz that I've been battling lately, my hair is shiney and really healthy-looking. I will definately keep this up - hopefully with more use it will keep my frizzies at bay! :grin:

Thanks guys!! Yet another thing I must try now!! :P
Hope my results are as great as yours.

After using the honey + conditioner combo, I straightened my hair this morning - it is so shiney, soft, and frizz-free! It looks so healthy - like the Pantene commercials! :grin: I will definately be keeping this up, especially after seeing how it helps my hair when it comes to heat styling!

Something even better than CO alone? Hard to imagine, but I believe what you say...I'll do this as soon as I can buy some honey. Thank you.

I did it, and I love it! It made me tangle-free for a whole day! That never happens! I love it, but I don't know if I should try it every time, or just once in a while. Great idea, though! :rockerdud

I can't wait to try this! But right now I'm sitting here with wet hair - just took a shower. Why didn't I see this thread *before* the shower? Hehe, I guess I'll have to wait. *hatches a plan to steal honey from the fridge without parents asking questions*

Edit: I tried the wash and liked it. My hair was soft, a bit shinier and generally happy. And that made me happy! :jestor:

If it works for you just buy a small, cheap bottle of 100% honey and keep it in the bathroom. This is what I do.

Hmm, now I'm sorry that I've washed my hair yesterday... I'll have to wait until next week to try this. But i'll let you know how it ended.

I got some clover honey a few days ago and I like it much better than the others I've tried. I can live with this smell.

Meg

This might be a really stupid question, but does lavender honey taste/smell of lavender? They have just got a *massive* new range of honeys in my local supermarket and while I was buying my "cheap as old chips" hair honey, I saw some of this and wondered if it would be a nicer scent then the honey I use which can be far to sweet scented, esp if I use it on my skin!

WOW! I tried this for the first time last week and it works great! My hair is thin and it left it smooth and shiney. I have been using it every other day mixed with CO. Great idea!!!

I have used it on my hair and it has turned really soft, I like it :D
Sylph, I like to eat lavender honey, but for my hair and skin I usually take a cheaper honey, I make sure it still is honey and not that sugery stuff that just smells like honey ;)
The smell, well, maybe you can add a few drops of essential oil? When I used it, it smelled more like my conditioner than the honey...

Initially, I too would have thought....sticky, but now it looks like I definitely have to try this.

I tried it with my AO Honeysuckle and Rose Condi and I loved the results!

Natchen13

Do you suppose that honey and coconut milk may work?

Honey and coconut milk? Hmm, I don't know, certainly not for me, my hair turns heavy and greasy from coconut milk ( see other toic).
Maybe it is a winning combination for others, let us know if you have tested it, Cyn ;)

I'm going to try this. I have some gourmet honeys - I just don't like the taste of some of them and I don't want them to go to waste ! (chestnut tree honey for example - sounds poetic but it smells bad and tastes even worse and don't get me started on the buckwheat honey - ewwww)

In case anyone is confused about honey:

It's a super-saturated sugar solution. It doesn't spoil because the sugar concentration is so high that there isn't enough water for most bacteria to survive. Diluting it will reduce or eliminate this effect, so don't expect a honey/conditioner (or any diluted honey) solution to be shelf-stable.

Also, honey starts out liquid because all the sugar is dissolved in the super-saturated solution, and gets thicker as the sugars crystallize out. As this happens, the remaining solution becomes less concentrated, so a partially or fully crystallized honey can spoil, while a liquid honey won't.

Hope this helps, and plan accordingly.

Holy Moly Cannot wait to try this. I have fine hair so maybe I will be conservative at first and see how it goes. Thanks, you genius!

Ursula, it is true, I even believe honey is the only eatable 'thing' that never spoils.

Also, honey starts out liquid because all the sugar is dissolved in the super-saturated solution, and gets thicker as the sugars crystallize out. As this happens, the remaining solution becomes less concentrated, so a partially or fully crystallized honey can spoil, while a liquid honey won't.

Hope this helps, and plan accordingly.

I didn't know this about honey. I have quite a bit of honey as we use to keep bees and it is crystallized but I haven't noticed it spoiling. I just heat the jar in boiling water to liquify the hone and use it. I hope it doesn't spoil as I would hate the waste.

Meg

I love the way it smells in the shower! I use Suave strawberry conditioner, and it smells heavenly with the honey! I've been using the crystallized honey and just mixing it well, and I haven't had any problems.

An odd question, but ... what kind of honey did you use? We've got four or five types in the apartment currently.

I use organic wildflower honey and it works fine. It's not raw honey (which is pale amber/yellow and opaque) but rather the honey-colored slow moving liquid.

I've been using the honey/conditioner combination for a while now since reading this thread months ago. It is fantastic and when my hair needs an extra 'kick' honey is the way to go. I also add it when I do a deep treatment and it seems to boost the effect of the conditioner.

I use the cheapest honey and it seems to do the job, I haven't tried it with the more expensive ones. Hmm, wonder if they would do an even better job??

I use "set" honey.

Because my house is blooming cold it needs zapping in the microwave before its runny enough to measure out!

Has anyone tried putting honey with beer in their shampoo and letting it set for about ten minutes? I did this with a co/wash/co and it worked really well. It took about an hour for the whole process of letting both co sit too. It sure felt and looked better. My hair has a lot more body and it's really soft now. It's been two days since I did this and it still looks good plus now I don't need to do much more to my hair but brush it occasionally after I styled it after the co/wash/co.

Oh i love mixing honey with my conditioner! My hair looks so shiney afterwards!

I LOVE honey and conditioner!!!
I started out with a deep conditioner recipe from Lorraine Massey's "Curly Girl" book, although it's been so long ago, and I've made so many "adjustments" to it that I can no longer remember the exact recipe. I mix conditioner, honey, an egg, and just a tiny bit of milk (you don't want this stuff to be too thin and runny!) I usually just get a glass from the kitchen and eyeball the measurements. :) Put it on my hair and cover it with a plastic processing cap for 30 minutes, then rinse!

Okay, well, after eighty-some odd posts raving about honey and conditioner, I had to be the oddball out. I debated about posting this but decided finally to do it. This did not work for me at all :-( I mixed about 2/1 conditioner/ honey. When it was wet, it felt super smooth and soft but once it dried, it was frizzy and coarse.

Just my :twocents:

Glad it worked so well for everyone else though :flower:

Sorry to hear that this didn't work for you. I found that the clover honey is preferable to the more expensive wild flower honey, but only in the smell.

Meg

Where would I find liquid honey? Should I travel into the city?
I haven't seen this at my regular grocery (Wal-Mart, Ingles, etc.) Any particular grocery that might carry this?

rawtoast - for what it's worth, I had loads of frizz at first too. After a few times, though, my hair came out wonderfully soft and shiny. I'm not sure *why* it acted that way, but now I'm thrilled with it and glad I gave it a few tries (stubborn - me? ;) )

Where would I find liquid honey? Should I travel into the city?
I haven't seen this at my regular grocery (Wal-Mart, Ingles, etc.) Any particular grocery that might carry this?


Honey is liquid in its natural state. I have not seen it at Wal Mart, but Kroger and other large chain grocery stores carry it. That's where I bought my clover honey.

Meg

My Walmart has it, I think it is with the jellies in one Walmart and over by the coffee and cocoa in the other one. Why the difference I don't know.
BTW, I am going to go buy some right now and try it this afternoon.

WOW! After reading about how wonderful this was for most peoples hair I had to give it a try. I am a total convert now! It made my hair not only shiny and lusterious looking, but tangle free too once it was combed out.
My 11 yr old twin long haired daughters had to try it out too and they fell in love with it also.
What I did for us was.....I wet my hair down in the bathtub, then applied the deep conditioner/honey mix, massaged it into my scalp and made sure all the under lying hair was coated in the mixture too, then put my hair in a shower cap. I soaked in the warm tub with the mixture in my hair for about 30 minutes. I then took a quick shower to rinse the hair fully.
This will now be a regular part of our hair care.

Darnit, after reading this I want to try it right now so bad, but it's 3am and I'm fixing to go to bed. :(

I'm tempted to do an overnight mask with conditioner & honey now. I start a new job on Wednesday and don't want to risk trying it for the first time when I have to GO somewhere afterwards.

I haven't tried the beer in my hair...well, not on purpose.

Okay, well, after eighty-some odd posts raving about honey and conditioner, I had to be the oddball out. I debated about posting this but decided finally to do it. This did not work for me at all :-( I mixed about 2/1 conditioner/ honey. When it was wet, it felt super smooth and soft but once it dried, it was frizzy and coarse.

Same here, wasn't sure about the difference. I also wondering if in case longer than BSLs use more than teaspoon each of the ingredients, for it to work.

I had the same experience the first time I tried this. But I read that you need to give things about a week before you totally rule them out as an option, so I try, tried again :)

This time I used Suave Milk & Honey conditioner and added more honey than last time. I left it on for about a half an hour and rinsed with warm water (I have bad experiences with the recommended cool water rinses). This time it worked like a charm and will be a permanent part of my hair care regime. Good luck!!

Okay, well, after eighty-some odd posts raving about honey and conditioner, I had to be the oddball out. I debated about posting this but decided finally to do it. This did not work for me at all :-( I mixed about 2/1 conditioner/ honey. When it was wet, it felt super smooth and soft but once it dried, it was frizzy and coarse.
:flower:


I tried it too, it didn't do much for me, nothing amazing which bothered me a bit. It did make it soft, but my ends dried out a lot.

I can only praise this treatment. I mixed mine 1/2 and 1/2 with alchemy macadamia and wheat for the conditioner, wrapped my head in plastic, then a towel and went on with my vacuuming for 30 minutes. It feels lovely, soft and shiny now, so this one's a keeper for me. :grin: thanks heaps

i am addicted to this, i can let my hair air dry and that's it it turns out beautifully. i'll have to post pics soon ! i know i love looking at other people's pictures of they're hair and would like to contribute as much.
thank you so much for informing me about this awesome mixture , i know keep a bottle of honey in my shower and have bought suave strawberry condtioner and i'm lovin' it.

I recently tried this mixture with just a little bit of coconut oil on my thick curly hair and I loved it ! My hair was very soft and my curls were in great form. I did it more like a deep conditioner- I used a heat cap attached to my blow dryer on warm for about 20 minutes. Then rinsed with warm water that I gradually reduced to cool/almost cold. Finger combed and air dryed. Wonderfully soft head full of corkscrews! This will definately become part of my routine.

I will try this next. Thanks for this recipe. By the way, you do not have to refrigerate honey. It is its own preservative; bacteria cannot grow in honey, and honey spread on cuts or scrapes will heal them. Honey is full of marvelous things, and is good for hair, skin, and your health inside and out.
My sister raised bees; between her and my own interests, I have found many blessings of honey. And now Honey and Conditioner. HC? HoCo? Is there already an abbreviation?

wow- love this idea! i took an empy jar and i filled 2/3 with conditioner and 1/3 with honey and i keep it in my shower and i use it all the time. i love it, it makes my curls less frizzy and soft and i dont even need to put styling prodects in it to de-frizz (most of the time).. i just want to know exactly how/ why this works? im fascinated lol

I love to put honey in my conditioners - V05 or Suave. It really makes my hair soft.

I also like to put 3 tablespoons of honey and oil mixed together with 1 cup of hot water. Once my concotion is cooled down I then apply it to my har and leave on overnight and wash out with a CWC in the mornings. My hair is so shiny once it's dry.

After seeing this thread I just remembered that I used honey in my conditioner this morning for the first time! :lol: My hair has been up all day so I'm going to go take it down and see how it feels. I'll probably have to wait a while for it to dry.

Update: I didn't notice anything spectacular with this. :undecided

Oh yeah I do this all the time becuase it works wonders!! :) I put honey in my shampoo and EVOO (extra virgin olive oil) in my conditioner. My hair comes out smooooth and silky.

I love this my hair feels so soft! Its definatly part of my routine now! :lol:

My first time was last nite. I used Suave milk/honey conditioner w/ a squirt of honey, Left it in for about an hour. rinsed & then done a final rinse w/ acv. After it dried somewhat, I noticed more frizz than w/ the egg/acv treatment.
Has anybody experienced this?

Mktomes

Been experimenting with using Honey and conditioner. I have been mixing honey with several conditioners that I use, and all seem to work well. I've used Eqyss Mega-Tek, Vo5 Kiwi Lime Squeeze, Fresh Pomegranate Condish. The first time I used it, didn't see/feel much difference, but with each time I treid it, it seems to do more good. Softer feeling, less frizzy when dry. I find I need to tweek honey amounts with different conditioners, but am starting to get the hang of this.

I definitely like the results!

Oh yeah I do this all the time becuase it works wonders!! :) I put honey in my shampoo and EVOO (extra virgin olive oil) in my conditioner. My hair comes out smooooth and silky.

I just received a sample of coconut oil in the mail today... I'll have to try this. :)

I've been using honey in my final conditioner after CO wash. and a small amount mixed into my styler. So so soft! And bouncy well defined curls! Even the second day I just need a spray (lavender & water, etc) to revive and kill any frizz (which is minimal with the honey) from sleeping on it. I could neer get any better than semi frizzy limp waves the second day with anything else. Quite happy and my hair is falling in love with the little honey bear in the bathroom. Now if I could just refrain from eating it... heh.

This thread is making me so hungry for a spoonful of honey! Can't wait to try this. Julia

Tried this for two weeks now and really like it. My hair gets so soft and shiny :inlove:

Will definately keep this up.

I tried this and it worked REALLY well! Honey + oil hadn't worked for me in the past, but this really did! It brings out your waves/curls too if you have any and makes your hair super soft!

1 part honey
2 parts conditioner

At least that's the way I did it, I'm sure there must be other ways. My hair is very thick and 28.5" and I used 1 tablespoon as 1 part, so you could adjust according to your hair's thickness and length.


THANKS...sooooo much for this posting! I noticed the difference in my over-processed hair ends IMMEDIATLY (yesterday). I have been having one bad hair experience after another since my move upstate 3 years ago.

This mixture...along with a few other concoctions from this site...my own personal hair trim, and I have bouncec back at a 75% recovery. The combined results were exceptional.

Also, through reading many of these posting I have realized some of things I might have done wrong...due to my hair type (eg. using essential oils too much or often).

I did this yesterday and really liked it.
I first coated my dry length with plain conditioner,then I diluted some shampoo and washed my scalp,rinsed all,applied the honey/conditioner,put plastic on my head then a towel,left it on for 30 minutes,rinsed and air dried.
I couldn't believe how well my hair behaved.
It usually looks icky when I air dry.I was very impressed.
I used a cheapo dollar store conditioner.
Jenn A

I have started putting honey in my conditioner when I CO wash. It seems to be working really well. Last night I took a good amount of conditioner (VO5), put a tablespoon of honey and two little scoops of Kokum butter. I heated it for 15 seconds, stirred, and heated it another 10 seconds. Got in the shower, wetted my hair and then put this mixture on. It was still warm from the micro and felt as if I was giving myself a heat treatement. I then put my shower cap on. At the end of the shower I scrubbed it up a bit and then rinsed (a lot). My hair feels soft but also silky. When I did this a couple times before with only honey (no kokum), my hair was soft but not silky. I plan on switching between adding jojoba, kokum or shea butter each time.

I did this yesterday and man oh man am I a happy curly. I never realized my hair could be that soft and frizz free. I was even able to achieve 2nd day curls. I think the honey may have helped with creating longer lasting curls cause they didn't get squished much while in bed sleeping.

Here is my modification to the original recipie mentioned:
In a small bowl I mixed 2 tbsp of my conditioner, 1 tbsp of regular honey, with a 1/2 tsp of jojoba oil and massaged it in my hair after I did my regular CO and ACV rinse. I then rinsed it out after a few mintues . I added a little gel and lightly towel dried the drippies out of my hair.

This will be added to my regular hair routine from now on.

In a small bowl I mixed 2 tbsp of my conditioner, 1 tbsp of regular honey, with a 1/2 tsp of jojoba oil and massaged it in my hair after I did my regular CO and ACV rinse. I then rinsed it out after a few mintues . I added a little gel and lightly towel dried the drippies out of my hair.

This will be added to my regular hair routine from now on.


Hi Guys,
Did you apply the CO + Honey on your scalp as well. Is it advisable? Please let me know.

Hi Guys,
Did you apply the CO + Honey on your scalp as well. Is it advisable? Please let me know.thats what i do... it still gets just as clean :)

What a wonderful treatment!!!! I have found so many wonderful recipes and tips on this site, I almost wish I had to wash my hair more than once a week!! My hair hasn't been this shiny in ages :)

I tried this yesterday! I mixed the honey into my extra-rich conditioner, coated my hair in it and let it sit for 20 minutes. I´m very happy with the results, my hair is so shiny and healthy-looking! Thanks for sharing!

I have been doing honey/conditioner since I read about it on LHC about two months ago. I love it. I mixed a small bottle of honey into a bottle of conditioner, so it is 2/3 conditioner, 1/3 honey. I shake it up when I use it to remix it, as the honey settles to the bottom. I don't have to make up the mix each time.
I am going to try mixing a bit of olive oil into some of it next. My son asked me what else we needed to buy at the grocery store that I can put on my hair; the family is just starting to be aware that I am buying hair food ;-)

i've tried it a few times but since i am rather a straighty, it kills all waves on me and makes my hair ultra straight, meaning no body left! i use honey for baking soda washes though, never tried it for coing, i might try that out. my scalp loves honey.

Honey is the LOVE for me.

I only add it to my deep treatment, so far. I get my hair magic bowl (a hand-thrown and glazed stoneware bowl) and I drop 2 tablespoons of honey in it. I don't buy liquid honey, but I can liquefy my block clover honey in the microwave. I let it go for about 20 seconds and then check on it in ten second intervals. Once it's melted, liquid, and hot, I take it upstairs and stir in my CO. I was using Queen Helene with Chloresterol, but now I'm thinking that conditioner is actually too heavy for my hair after the last treatment. I put it in, detangle, wrap my hair in a plastic shopping bag, and then wrap a warm towel around it and read or so for about 20 minutes, then rinse.

in my hair, it's curl activating and produces killer shine.

I tried this method yesterday and I honestly couldn't see that much of a difference. I'll give it a few more tries though. Maybe I didn't leave it on for enough time or it requires a few more applications to work.

Hey there.

I tried this method again yesterday and it still doesn't seem to work. I changed a few things in my routine though so I'm not sure if that's the reason.

For those of you doing CO washing and using honey, could you please tell how you actually do it? How many times do you apply some conditioner per shower? If you apply it more than once, on which application do you include the honey and for how long do you leave it on?

I'll have to try this my next wash. Seems like it works well for most people. Does it make anyone's hair greasy?

That is awesome; I thought that I had come up with this idea on my own. (Guess I am not so original) Actually, I guess I kind of did, since I put the honey in the shampoo, at about 15% of the total volume. It works really well for me, and then I just put regular conditioner on. Hm.. maybe I'll add some honey to the condish as well :)

I love mixing honey in with my conditioners! I also mix a little with my gel and scrunch it in to help my wavy hair clump better. It works great and makes my hair shiny and the waves stay in place all day :)

I never thought of using honey in conditionner but I tried it yesterday, and it worked! My hair is really softer and shinier. I will add this to my routine! :smile:

Hi there, it's nice to see someone from north shore, i am from burlington


That is awesome; I thought that I had come up with this idea on my own. (Guess I am not so original) Actually, I guess I kind of did, since I put the honey in the shampoo, at about 15% of the total volume. It works really well for me, and then I just put regular conditioner on. Hm.. maybe I'll add some honey to the condish as well :)

Hi there, it's nice to see someone from north shore, i am from burlington
Oh wow, we are like neighbors :) Maybe we will meet when they have a community meet next time!

i just tried this for the first time last night and I have to say, my hair does feel softer and I happened to see some ringlets forming in my wavy hair as well. It must be becuz it's really moisturized :) Thanks

That would be pretty cool :)


Oh wow, we are like neighbors :) Maybe we will meet when they have a community meet next time!

I did the co/honey on the last CO. I am letting it sit for a half hour under a heatcap. I could also use a plastic bag w a hot towel from the dryer if I had not heatcap. Let you know results.LM

I'm really excited to try this. My hair as been feeling dry lately, especially the ends. All of your rave reviews are making me itch to go out and buy some honey (and recommended brands?), but I'll have to wait until tomorrow :)

I'm really excited to try this. My hair as been feeling dry lately, especially the ends. All of your rave reviews are making me itch to go out and buy some honey (and recommended brands?), but I'll have to wait until tomorrow :)

For the purpose intended here honey is honey so go for the store brand. It will be cheaper.

Meg

I picked up some honey today, and I just finished conditioning my hair. My hair feels great. It's really soft and silky, plus it's way less frizzy than it normally is after it dries. I'll DEFINITELY be using this stuff more often.

Y'know, I tried this once, and it left my hair feeling "molded". But then, I did rinse it out immediately, so maybe that was the problem ... I'm going to try again tonight!

I tried this and my hair felt pale and coarse :rolleyes: I think oils work better for me...

I tried this and it worked REALLY well! Honey + oil hadn't worked for me in the past, but this really did! It brings out your waves/curls too if you have any and makes your hair super soft!

1 part honey
2 parts conditioner

At least that's the way I did it, I'm sure there must be other ways. My hair is very thick and 28.5" and I used 1 tablespoon as 1 part, so you could adjust according to your hair's thickness and length.hi leia and to all long hair enthusiasts!

this simple recipe gives a fabulous effect on my hair. i tried today for my (conditioner only) CO wash and my hair feels soft and shiny (and not greasy). i let my hair wear down the whole day and i like it! thanks for sharing it!

STOP ME! My grocery list is growing by leaps and bounds! But i must try this...we have bee hives which produce clear sweet light honey and i cannot wait to try this...will post results after i do!

I'm trying this in the morning and will post results when it is finished drying!!

Well, I tried it and my hair is soooo soft and full of body!! I love it!!! It's a keeper!!!
Deb

Is it okay to use ACME brand honey?

'rora

yes.

use the cheapest brand of honey you can find. there's no sense putting tupelo honey in your hair.

Ugh. My hair hated this.

I was losing so much hair when my hair was wet, even damp when I tried to comb it to bun it. Just seeing me lose all that hair is the main reason I'll never try it again.

My hair was SOFT but not managable, it made my ends feel extremely "crunchy" and I felt like I couldn't even run my fingers through my own hair.

I'm glad this has worked so well for everyone else, and I might be alone when I say this is my worst home recipe yet for my hair, but I'm glad I tried to to know.

I tried this and my hair loved it. I thought it would be sticky, but with the conditioner it was the exact opposite. When my hair dried it was so soft and shiny. *love for the honey*

I've been doing this regularly for just over a year, and no complaints yet. :)

I buy my honey from Costco or Sam's Club, as I also put it in body scrubs. It about $9 for 6lbs of clover honey. Not bad in my opinion :)

I take about 3 bottles of my favorite lower-cost conditioner, and empty them into a large, resealable container. (the kind you can buy in the kitchen utensils section of Wal-Mart) I add about a bottle of the honey, but I never take the time to measure. It's always an eyeballing for me :) And then I mix it with a big wooden spoon.
Sometimes I'll mix it up, doing a CO wash with a cheap conditioner and using this for my second conditioner, or doing a vinegar wash with my shampoo and using this as my conditioner, but using honey always remains constant for me :)
About once a week, I'll do a vingar wash, then was with dilluted shampoo, use this conditioner (in excess.... great big sopping globs) and leave it on for about a half hour to 45 minutes while I go about doing things around the house. I'll then rinse it completely, (*squeaky* *squeaky*), then rub a little more through my hair and rinse with tea. That's when my hair seems to be the happiest :cloud9:

I'm devoted :love:

I have been adding honey to my condish too because of this thread (I started almost a year ago). Its a wonderful natural humectant. I just love it & its cheap too :)

I'm going to try this tonight! Thanks for the recipe!

Just to let everyone know, I've done deep treatments using pure honey and while it was super sticky going on (and resulted in a lot of pulled out hairs), it rinses our REALLY easily. I don't recommend the pure honey treatments, though, as so many hairs get pulled out.

Hair is still wet. Just tried this. I C/S, then conditioned/honeyed an let it sit on my hair for about half an hour.


ALREADY I can tell a difference. My hair has been MUCH easier to comb out, and it's much softer.


Will let you know what I think when it's dry.

I tried this and it worked REALLY well! Honey + oil hadn't worked for me in the past, but this really did! It brings out your waves/curls too if you have any and makes your hair super soft!

1 part honey
2 parts conditioner

At least that's the way I did it, I'm sure there must be other ways. My hair is very thick and 28.5" and I used 1 tablespoon as 1 part, so you could adjust according to your hair's thickness and length.


Very nice thick jet black hair.

Okay. The honey definitely made my hair softer. Didn't help much with my frizzies, though. But I like it, so I'll continue using it. =)

Love this! Started doing this only this week but it's made my dry, now cone-free hair soft and moisturized! YAY! :cloud9:

I tried this and really liked the way my hair looked and felt, but it made my scalp itchy.

ooh.. i have to try this.

i am using it in 1:1 ratio and it's working wonderful for my fair.I am loving it :inlove:

Thanks for the recipe, I just bought some pure honey today. I'm going to do this tommorow morning. I'll let you know how I liked it.

This didnt work for me with NG Aloe vera cond. ,,maybee it was that? But
yesterday, I tried a SMT with NGs Jojoba( my HG) and it didnt work either,so IM concluding it might be the honey? Not sure, and not curious enough to try
it again.
deb

I loved this recipe!! My hair seems to love honey. I have been mixing from 1 part honey to 2 parts conditioner up to 1:1 ratio for the last C in my CWC, which is my heavier dish, and for CO as well, in two ways: as the first dish, when my hair is clean enough to begin with, and then I leave it in for the usual 20 mins or so; or as the second, heavier dish, and then I usually let it soak for 10-15 mins like a mini-deep treatment. My second dish is a hydrolised milk protein one, so I guess the moisture from the honey and the protein treatment get along very well. I noticed I don't get such great results if I use honey with my cheapo first dish (Suave Naturals Aloe Vera).

(Whatever the case, I always do a final ACV rinse after rinsing out all the dish, massage the ACV through my hair and scalp, and then rinse it out with cold water. I'm not sure if this has any effect on the honey.)

It makes my hair smell like honey for a good long time, and the shine and softness is wonderful!

For the first couple of weeks I have used honey every single time I washed my hair, but now I'm doing it every other time (I'm afraid of overconditioning).

Love this!! YEAH, HONEY!! :rockerdud

Has anyone who has used this combination also tried SMT? If so, how do these two treatments compare...as both use a combination of conditioner and honey, with SMT adding a dash of aloe. TIA!

~Tik

Has anyone who has used this combination also tried SMT? If so, how do these two treatments compare...as both use a combination of conditioner and honey, with SMT adding a dash of aloe. TIA!

~Tik
I was wondering this, too.

Okay I did the honey and conditioner, using VO5 SKR for the conditioner. I mixed up 3oz honey and 6oz of conditioner on my 23.75 inches of hair. Then I covered it in plastic wrap and a towel and slept on it. Left it on for maybe 8 hrs total and then rinsed. I used a little of Suave aloe vera conditioner after rinsing, I wanted to make sure I got all of the other out. When it dried it was soooo silky. I posted a pic in the hair pic thread here (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?p=597640#post597640).

I definitely will be doing this again, and again, and again! I love it!

That is a great idea! Ick, my honey is old...I'm going to go get another bottle today. I must try this out. And by the looks of these posts, everyone is loving it!

Finished showering and letting hair air dry. Used your honey & conditioner recipe and WOW! My hair is so damaged and usually feels rough and weak after shampooing. This made my hair feel smooth and strong. It feels great! I love this! Thanks!

Finished showering and letting hair air dry. Used your honey & conditioner recipe and WOW! My hair is so damaged and usually feels rough and weak after shampooing. This made my hair feel smooth and strong. It feels great! I love this! Thanks!
Strong? Maybe that's what my hair feels like. I used the honey & conditioner recipe with my new Regis Olive Oil conditioner that I hadn't tried yet. My hair felt so different. I couldn't tell if it was good or bad. It felt kind of hard but not in a bad way. Maybe it was feeling strong and i'm so used to it feeling weak?

I've done this twice this week now. I'm using Regis Design Line Olive Oil conditioner, and did a 1:2 ratio of honey to condish, and my hair LOVES it. I think I will do this every time I wash.

Tried the honey and conditioner today
:razz: Worked for me!! Deffinetly lovvvee it
Happy new years!!:rockerdud

I'm going to try this with my CO washes. I also love the SMt but I think my hair really does like the honey mixed in and it is so dry here so I will be doing it all the time.

i tried this today and i LOVE it! mt hair is soooo soft! and the honey smells great with my herbal essences conditioner!

HOLY CRAP!
Has anyone made this as a larger batch and just kept it in a container in the shower. I didn't know how well this would keep. Honey keeps for a long time, doesn't it?

I haven't...but honey is supposed to NEVER spoil. I would think it would be OK...

I have a question about this whole process: Is it better to do the Honey\Condish for the first Condish (C0) or for the deeper last condish? I have oily roots and am afraid that if I mix honey in my C0 and rub it in my scalp that my scalp will get greasy. Also, do you do an ACV rinse before or after the honey?

I have a question about this whole process: Is it better to do the Honey\Condish for the first Condish (C0) or for the deeper last condish? I have oily roots and am afraid that if I mix honey in my C0 and rub it in my scalp that my scalp will get greasy. Also, do you do an ACV rinse before or after the honey?I use honey & conditioner every wash and it has really improved my hair.:cloud9: Do it for you last conditioning and try to keep it off your scalp b/c it will really moisturize. The ACV should be after that.

HTH!:flower:

I've tried this for a week and it's left my dry hair so shiny and silky! Thank you LittleFlower for recommending it to me when I first joined! :inlove:

Honey is definite good thing to my hair. My hair loves it! I just added 3 tsp of honey along with pure aloe vara gel, jojoba oil, and saked it will into my rich conditioner.

My usual fight with went and tangle hair was GONE....amazing.

This is my first LHC recipe, and I think it worked really well. Thanks for posting it!

I've been looking for some homemade moisturizing stuff....and this seems much more pleasant than the mayonaisse that I'd been contemplating! :)

I've been doing this for a little while routinely when I CWC... just add a big glob to my second C and apply it all at once, let it sit for ten minutes or so, and rinse as usual -- I love it, the effects and the smell (and the tastes I sneak every now and then :D )
that's a really neato speedeto idea there..i'm going to have to try that the next time i do a CWC

I mix up a conditioner recipe of Irish Moss, Honey and Molasses and its keeps for weeks--it would probably keep longer but I use it up by then.

I've been doing this every week or so for 2 months now and I love it! :inlove: I also love SMT, which is similar, but with aloe vera gel also. However, I tried this one first.

I could have sworn I posted about my great results before- but they're not on this thread anyway. But thanks, Leia. I think your hair is stunning- its rare to see such long hair without straggley ends. You obviously know what you're talking about.

Yesterday I bought liquid honey in order to test it on my hair.

I decided to do CWC (it is my daily routine) :

-- C : with olive oil (2 parts) and liquid honey (1 part) - I let it on my head about 2 hours long.
-- W : Gliss Shampoo from Schwarzkopf like silk (sorry, I don't know the name in english !)
-- C : Gliss Conditioner from Schwarzkopf like silk (2 parts) and liquid honey (1 part) - I let it on my head about 15 minutes long. I rinsed as I used to do with only conditioner, not more !

My hair was so silk when it was wet !

After 2 hours, my hair was dry and .... really like silk and not sticky !!! :cloud9:

I used honey and conditioner with just a few drops of oil mixed in and it worked great on my hair, made it so soft and shiney! And it smelled really great too. :)

This sounds wonderful, will try it next wash...eager.
Naj

I love what honey mixed with my conditioner does for my hair!!!

I have a question. A few of you mentioned that you use honey as a leave-in with aloe or something. Does this not leave a sugary mess in your hair? Okay, it must be great since you are doing it, but does it rub off on clothes/chairs and attract ants? Does it attract bugs to your hair when you are outside???????????

Thanks!

This is a great recipe - thank for sharing!

The last two washes, I added a tea spoon of lemon juice to the honey/condish mixture - my hair is even softer now!

I've tried honey and conditioner twice, and I love it! it made my hair softer and silkier, though I couldn't really see any shine increase. But I also had great curls the last time I did it, when I left it in for two hours.

Honey keeps for a long time, doesn't it?

Honey is the only food that doesn't have an expiration date.

I add honey to my conditioner, my leave-in and my diluted shampoo- i have had nothing but great results so i will continut to do this.

I tried this last week after I read this topic and I really liked it. I will keep it up, maybe once a week or fortnight to see if it makes a difference.

I am going to try this out. I am using, 1 teaspoon honey, 2 tea. conditioner, and then 1 tea. evoo. it smells great, and looks to be a good consistancy. I hve a bag on my head, and wraped a towel around it. So hopefully this will work for my hair.

I tried it long back and im a convert. Very very good recipe for DMT. I Alternate it with SMT.
Naj.

I have been using Honey and conditioner ( VO5 Strawberry Cream) CO for a while now, and love the way it makes my hair look, and feel. I also add a drop or two of Jojoba oil in the mix every now and then. I noticed my hair is turning slighty lighter, and wondered if it has anything to do with the honey? Its not a big deal, as it not that significant, I have dark brown hair, and was just curious.

Yes, honey lightens hair a bit. I have noticed it myself - don't mind, because I like my hair a few shades lighter. But for those who color, they might want to limit their honey treatments.

I've read about people with dark hair using molasses the same way - it has the opposite effect (makes hair darker?), but similar moisturizing properties. Haven't tried it, though, so I can't vouch for it.

I never use conditioner, just a vinegar or lemon juice rinse, but I was so interested in trying this. So, I did a lemon juice (1 TBL) + honey (1 TSP) rinse in 2 cups warm water. Left it in just a few minutes and then rinsed.

Lovely results! My hair, which was getting sort of dry, is really soft and wavy today.

Thanks for this great thread!

once or twice or more a week, instead of using my Long and Strong conditioner, i use a mixture of white rain conditioner, and aussie conditioner and honey, i LOVE it, makes my hair feel and look awesome

I had cut out the 'cones and sulphates, and started using coconut oil on the ends, BUT my hair was being unruly..so I finally got the guts to try the honey and conditioner...heated low in a sauce pan, and I got the urge to add a big glob of coconut oil. W-O-W!!!! I wish I had tried this earlier! More shine, and I can actually get a comb through my hair! (just thought I'd like to share) Thanks a million!!!:inlove: :cloud9:

I tried this... and my hair came out sooooo lovely!

Thanks for the recipe... I would never had thought of honey in conditioner.

I keep touching my hair... it feels so soft. :)

Yes, honey lightens hair a bit. I have noticed it myself - don't mind, because I like my hair a few shades lighter. But for those who color, they might want to limit their honey treatments.

I've read about people with dark hair using molasses the same way - it has the opposite effect (makes hair darker?), but similar moisturizing properties. Haven't tried it, though, so I can't vouch for it.

Well, I'm trying it now! Have molasses and condish on my hair with a shower cap on. I was worried that the honey would lighten my hair and trust me, I look horrible with lightened hair. Black eyebrows+lighter hair=yuck....so I'll tell you how it works!

ETA: Later, after shower: My body feels great. :lol: Don't know about my hair though. Still drying...

ETA: It's tomorrow. I braided my hair and went to bed. My hair feels clean, but not soft. It feels rather coarse actually....but thick. Anyway, the molasses and condish smelled something like BBQ sauce, :lol:

This is such an informative thread! I am off to try some honey conditioner, (smells bad, but anything goes if it improve hair!)

I always mix conditioner with honey, about 50/50. It feels great and smells lovely. But I do shampoo first. Conditioning only doesn't work for me.

I can't tell you how happy I am that I tried this! My hair is so soft after using HCO (and somehow I can use much less conditioner too). I also vary this with using normal CO and pouring water with honey in it to rinse out most of the conditioner before using regular water. They've given me pretty similar results.

Thank you for this! I'd hand you some flowers if I knew how :D

(snip) I also vary this with using normal CO and pouring water with honey in it to rinse out most of the conditioner before using regular water. They've given me pretty similar results.

This sounds like what I want to do for my first attempt at using honey in my hair. Thanks for sharing, Soraya.

Thank you for this! I'd hand you some flowers if I knew how :D

Here's how you "do" flowers: If you don't see a clickable icon you can type
: flowers :........but leave out the space between the :'s and the word flowers. HTH.
:flowers:

Thank you, ladiosaRosa - and you're welcome too! I hope you and Leia don't mind sharing the flowers I promised. :flowers:

And by the way - I don't leave it on for more than 10 or 20 minutes tops. I wonder if my hair just takes it in easily or if it would be even more effective with more time.

Yes, honey lightens hair a bit. I have noticed it myself - don't mind, because I like my hair a few shades lighter. But for those who color, they might want to limit their honey treatments.

I've read about people with dark hair using molasses the same way - it has the opposite effect (makes hair darker?), but similar moisturizing properties. Haven't tried it, though, so I can't vouch for it.
I tried honey and it didn't work very well with my hair at all, so I switched to molasses. I'll put it this way--every now and again you stumble across a hair holy grail type of thing, and that's been my big one.

It did stain my hair darker, which is actually what I was going for so I was even happier. Other than that, molasses pretty much has the same effect honey is supposed to, although I noticed a huge amount of change in the smoothness and shine of my hair. My only problem with it is that I'll get little splatters on the tile of my shower, but they come right off and don't stain. The small mess is definitely worth the results, so if honey isn't working for anyone, try molasses. :rockerdud

I tried honey and it didn't work very well with my hair at all, so I switched to molasses. I'll put it this way--every now and again you stumble across a hair holy grail type of thing, and that's been my big one.
:rockerdud

When you do the molasses treatment, Saiididesign, how do you do it? I've never heard of doing that to make your hair darker. Do you mix it with water? or just slather (don't you love that word??) it on your hair as is? How much? I'm so glad that I found this forum!

I haven't used this since last winter. Thanks for reminding me. I'm going to reimplement it.

Wowza! I just tried this this morning and this is the softest my hair has ever been! This is amazing! I normally have hair that could rival a horse's, this is definately a keeper!

*dances with glee*

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I added honey and aloe to my everyday conditioner. My hair is so much easier to detangle now. I love the slip I am getting.

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
- Albert Einstein

I love adding honey to my conditioner - my hair just soaks it up! I have noticed that it does lift some of the henna coloring up though and so I'm interested in hearing aboutSaiidiDesign's molasses mixture. If it works as well, I'd gladly switch

Just thought I'd chime in here - I tried it this morning and wow! My hair is very soft, not too frizzy and very shiny!! It even seemed to bring out my teeny tiny waves. I'm hooked (though DH couldn't understand why there was a jar of honey in the bathroom, lol)! Thanks for posting about this :flowers:

I tried this today and i love it! I have been using CV bars with a condish on the ends, sometimes a cone one, sometimes one without cones. Today i used the Babbasu bar, did not do a vinegar rinse and mixed up equal amounts of honey and my cheap non cone condish, i use 5 stars from Adi, i pay AU$2.00 for 1Ltr and its great! I left it on while i did the rest of my shower then rinsed well. It's so soft and the ends feel lovely:hollie: i am going shopping and will have to get 2 bottles of honey, 1 for the kitchen and 1 for the shower :rolleyes:
I am so pleased this worked, i must admit i was wondering if i was going to get a sticky mess but it was wonderful, a real keeper! :rockerdud

The reason honey lifts henna and lightens hair is that diluted honey releases a very weak hydrogen peroxide that when left on long enough can lighten hair without damaging it. Here's the science of how it works (http://bio.waikato.ac.nz/honey/honey_intro.shtml#Hydrogen). I updated the Article on Natural Hair Coloring with a conditioner/honey mix designed TO lighten hair. So if you're not looking to lighten your hair, honey may not be a good additive.

That link is so informative abt honey. I was worried using honey on hair due to lightening effects. Thanks.

I think this sounds great! I think I'll try it with molasses, tho.

I love LHC!!!

I tried honey with conditioner today , love the smell.My hair is soft but oily. Do we have to apply only to hair or to scalp also? my scalp is oily but the hair length is soft and nice.
will try with molasses too.

I generally apply generously to hair from about ears down. Then I put a small amount in my fingers, and just barely get the hair framing my face. When I pile the rest of my hair atop my head, I figure the other surface hairs get their share. I'm personally not a great fan of conditioner on the scalp, so I don't apply specifically to my scalp, though I'm sure some penetrates anyway.

Will try this method ,Thanks Raederle.

You're welcome, nila. Let us know how this worked out for you. Hope the scalp issues resolve. I'm a firm believer that happy scalp = happy hair.

here we go. I used two tablespoons of honey and three tablespoons of TIGI Moisture Maniac. I did a test strand in the back underneath in case it lightened and I didnt like it. I sat under the dryer for two commercial breaks and left it on for most of the Golden Globes (about 2.5 hours I think) I didnt notice much colour difference. I shampood and used hot/warm water to open the cuticle and put on another mixture of honey/conditioner (on all my hair this time). Plastic cap on. I sat under the dryer for 12m and then in the tub with it on for another 10m. I rinsed with cool water and am now waiting for it to air dry. I will post before and after pix soon. Tomorrow most likely. :) It doesnt feel much different than using regular conditioner.. almost even a little less soft. It feels pretty tame though and usually its poofing like crazy when I dont put product in before it starts to dry. So far I dont see any colour change.

I'm not sure how much color change you are expecting. Here (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showpost.php?p=995301&postcount=39) is my posting on the Honey (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=55345) thread showing the results after two months of using honey and conditioner for at least an hour, and sometimes four hours, after each shampoo. I shampoo about twice a week.

Raederle, Im not really expecting a lot of colour change. Im used to chemical colour, so I suppose my trying this is more out of curiosity than wanting any real change. Im more interested in the health/environmental benefits of using honey as a conditioner (or with) over the chemicals in salon conditioners. Im a hairdresser, but am very concerned about the environment. Im also vegan, so I am looking into more natural, animal-free ways to colour/condition hair. Eventually Id like to work somewhere that is all natural and vegan rather than a salon that still uses colour/poo/etc with animal bi-products in them.

Intriguing, Garnett. I wish you lived near me. It would be great to have someone with your sensibilities work on my hair.

aw thank you :)

Well, I regret to report that I tried this and it fried my ends!

Not only that, there was no colour change at all.

I used one part organic honey from Hawai'i, two parts Queen Helene Cholesterol condtioner w/o cones or placental extract (which I have used and liked in the past), wrapped and capped and left it on for 8 hours, then rinsed well.

It was very difficult to get a wide-toothed comb through my hair, and I ended up coneing the tips to get it to behave. I let it air dry and it did not improve.

I have worn it clipped up since.

I am going to wait until my February 1 measurement check, then have the damage removed. I expect I'll lose about 1/2 - 1 inch.

Not a good experience at all.....

I'll preface this with the fact that I am not a chemist, I'm an English major, so if what I suggest sounds really stupid, nobody laugh :lol:

If there is a slow release of perodide, which is basic, couldn't litmus strips be used to see at how many hours it takes for as basic solution as possible? Or to see what honey/conditioner is best? I don't have such tools, but if someone does....

Which also makes me think that for those that had crunchy hair, perhaps the PH makes your hair off. Maybe an ACV rinse may help normalize it?

Sounds as if both would work. It might be difficult to get in vivo pH samples......maybe you could do them in vitro instead? Of course, the scalp and/or hair chemistry would probaby be operant there, too, so maybe you would have to get pH readings from the hair as it set.

The ACV rinse might reverse the basic pH temporarily, but I doubt anything is going to cure the damaged ends, once that has occurred. Perhaps it would be good to avoid putting the H&C (honey & conditioner) on the tips at all. Kinda hard to do, but might be worth it.

I didn't see any great condition or any colour change at all, so in my particular case, why bother doing H&C at all? :lol:

I hope it works out better for others.....

sky

it would be interesting to see what volume the peroxide ended up being.. anyone? :tongue:

Herm... where are those science geeks when you need them? :silly:

Nightshade

First, I do not believe that any question is stupid.

I bougt pH papers that range from a pH of 4.5-7.5 from Quebec at a very reasonable price.

The website for this vendor is currently down but if anyone is interested, his toll free number is 1-877-682-9137 and his name is Louis.

I have ordered from him twice in 2001 and 2005 and both times since he was not set up for credit cards, he sent me the product first and then I sent him a personal cheque.

I received delivery promptly and without problems. I do not know what payment system he currently uses.

"Hydrogen peroxide is a weak acid, and it can form hydroperoxide or peroxide salts or derivatives of many metals."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide

"The pH of honey is commonly between 3.2 and 4.5"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey

"The Manuka honey had a pH level of 5.67. All the Canadian honey had an average pH of 6"
http://www.honeycouncil.ca/users/folder.asp?FolderID=5136


INTRODUCTION TO HYDROGEN PEROXIDE
"15. What is the pH of H2O2 solutions?

It depends upon a number of factors discussed below. But first ... a few points on what pH means. pH is a logarithmic measure -- pH = log10 1/[H+]. Hence, if you mix equal parts of a pH 2 solution and pH 4 solution, you will not necessarily end up with a pH 3 solution -

Reason No. 1: According to the definition of pH, the pH 2 solution has 100 times the concentration of hydrogen ion [H+], not twice the concentration.

Reason No. 2: Both the pH 2 solution and pH 4 solution may contain "buffering agents" which dampen shifts in pH despite the addition of acids or bases.

Hence, to anticipate the resulting pH, it is useful to measure the relative buffering capacities of the two solutions in addition to their pH. The measures used to define buffering capacity (acidity and alkalinity) are derived from the amount of acid or base needed to bring the solutions to neutrality (pH 7). "
http://www.h2o2.com/intro/faq.html#15

Another honey convert here :)

I put off trying it for ages because I was worried that it would lighten my colour. The dryness of my hair as we go into winter here was enough for me to try something different.

I CWC and added a little honey to the final C, only on the ends of my hair. I only left it for a few minutes, but what a difference! My hair is so, so soft :cloud9:

I do have a feeling that it's slightly changed my colour - only just enough for the henna to be brighter. Worst comes to worst, I'll just henna more often. The conditioning effect of the honey is worth it IMHO.