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Niphredil
May 2nd, 2003, 06:29 AM
Hey, Though I've posted some replies already, I want to introduce myself shortly first.

Yesterday, when I was browsing this board for a while and looking at some other long hairsites I decided to grow long hair as well and stick to it this time. I've had it somewhere down my waist when I was about 8 and then i decided to cut it just below my ears.... It grew quite long but then... I cut again, and again, so it has never reached much longer again than it does now (see avatar and sig pics) But this time I'll stick to it (I hope)

I don;t have a real routine exept I was using a 'hair mask' every two weeks for about half a year now. I think it;s just a very heavy conditioner and my hair seemed to like it. My hair can be quite frizzie, though I never use a blowdryer. So I thought maybe the CO method or CWC method I found here might help.
Now for my question, I hear many of you about a vinegar rinse (apple cider mostly) but what vinegar are you using?? This may also be a language problem since I'm not from the USA (but from the Netherlands) but the only vinegar I know of is the one you can use in your food! and I really hate the smell of it.. so it must be something else i guess...
hope to hear from you,
Niphredil :)

Cowgal
May 2nd, 2003, 06:41 AM
Yes, most of us use vinegar that comes from the grocery store. I use WiseWays herbal ACV (apple cider vinegar), but that smells even stronger than the stuff from the grocery!

Maybe Anne can tell you about what she uses. I *think* that it is rice vinegar..?

There are still options for you. The point is it needs to be acidic, and some use lemon juice for that purpose.

Cowgal
May 2nd, 2003, 06:42 AM
I am sorry!

I forgot to welcome you... so... WELCOME to the boards! I hope we can all help you reach your hair goals.

Quirky
May 2nd, 2003, 06:45 AM
Welcome! This board is wonderful!

Karen
May 2nd, 2003, 06:55 AM
welcome!

there are lots of different vinegars you can use on your hair, all available at the grocery store here in the US.

KajiKodomo
May 2nd, 2003, 06:56 AM
I use just plain Apple Cider Vinegar from the grocery store.....the smell isn't that bad when it is watered down, and the smell goes away when you rinse it out...so your hair wouldn't smell like vinegar! :D

Niphredil
May 2nd, 2003, 06:59 AM
wow.. this goes quick, all these answers !! :D Thx!
At least I know now I can use the awfully smelly one. It's the only kind availible here, though there are different trademarks(?) of course.

thank you all, this board will pull me through I hope ;)

Niphredil

SagittarianTiger
May 2nd, 2003, 07:05 AM
Welcome!
I use the vinegar rinse.. again the kind at the store.. but helps me with the smell... it to use it inbetween each conditioner of my co wash.. otherwise "I" can still smell in on me.... yuck!

Jonobie
May 2nd, 2003, 07:52 AM
First off, welcome to the boards.

Now for my question, I hear many of you about a vinegar rinse (apple cider mostly) but what vinegar are you using?? This may also be a language problem since I'm not from the USA (but from the Netherlands) but the only vinegar I know of is the one you can use in your food! and I really hate the smell of it.. so it must be something else i guess...

Nope - it's the sort of vinegar you can eat. There are several ways to deal with the smell of vinegar rinses:

1. Use different sorts of vinegar to see which one smells least offensive. I've heard that baslamic vinegar, red wine vinegar and rice vinegar are all less smelly than plain white vinegar or apple cider vinegar. Never tried it myself, though.

2. Dilute the vinegar rinse (this is a good idea for your first try with it, anyhow) so that you're using maybe something like 1 cup of vinegar to 3 cups water. That helps dilute the smell, too. If you want to start off really small, some people here use vinegar rinses that are diluted 2 Tablespoons of vinegar to 4 cups water. (Sorry to use US measurements.)

3. Add a *lot* of essential oils to your vinegar. I've found this only partially works to disguise the smell. Some people mix vinegar and conditioner which has the same effect, although it's then no longer strictly a vinegar rinse, imo.

4. Follow your vinegar rinse with some other sort of rinse to make the smell go away immediately. Regardless of what you do, the vinegar smell will go away after your hair dries, so you only have to deal with the acidic smell while your hair is wet. However, if you or a loved one can't deal with that, you can either follow the vinegar rinse with your conditioner or with a rinse with water and some clove essential oil. For some reason, clove essential oil added *to* the vinegar doesn't seem to help with the smell, but it totally cuts the vinegar smell if it's used in a rinse afterwards.

Hope that helps,
Jonobie

danni
May 2nd, 2003, 08:15 AM
I have used it but my hair seems to dry out if I do, even when I dilute it to barely there. It does smell yucky, but doesn't linger after it dries. It seems good for my scalp, but the length of my hair just really doesn't like it, so I do not use them. Try it for yourself and see how it works for you.

I am glad you are here, and you will find all the support you need to reach your goals.

:D danni

rosepetal
May 2nd, 2003, 08:20 AM
I have used it but my hair seems to dry out if I do, even when I dilute it to barely there.

I have the same issue... even very dilute vinegar rinses... a small splash of vinegar in a pot of water... seems to be great for my scalp, but drying for my length. So, I would advise caution, until you see what level of vinegar your hair responds to the best.

Tresses
May 2nd, 2003, 08:51 AM
Welcome, Niphredil! :DD I use a vinegar rinse, sometimes by adding 2-3 Tablespoons of ACV and 4 drops of rosemary EO to 1.75 litres of tepid water and using it as a final rinse. Believe it or not, once my hair dries I do not smell like a salad. ;-) Other times I use it in the same proportions without the EO, but with George Michael's cream rinse instead. That mix I rinse out with water.

Happy growing to you! :D

Niphredil
May 2nd, 2003, 10:17 AM
thanks again, I just finished washing my hair using CO and a very diluted vinegar rinse with a few drops of sunseed oil (or something like it) since I do not have any EO;s at home yet, my hair is drying while in a lose braid and therefor doesn;t seem dry yet ;) and I did use a heavier conditioner after the rinse, but just in the ends.. will see how it turned out soon...

love,
Niphredil

smiles
May 2nd, 2003, 10:49 AM
welcome Niphredil. nice name :D what does it mean? and ur curls are very nice too.

i use vinegar rinse almost everytime i wash my hair (though i didnt today :( ) 2 tbsp or one capful in 64 oz of cold tap water.

RedButterfly
May 2nd, 2003, 11:04 AM
You'll love it here. Everyone is so nice and helpful.

I use a nice vinegar rinse called Wiseways Raven rinse. It's simply apple cider vinegar with herbs. You can make a vinegar rinse yourself too. I just prefer the Wiseways version. They have rinses for both light and dark hair. You can get Wiseways vinegar rinses at the Hair Boutique Marketplace:

www.hairboutique.com

Anne
May 2nd, 2003, 08:39 PM
You'll love it here. Everyone is so nice and helpful.

I use a nice vinegar rinse called Wiseways Raven rinse. It's simply apple cider vinegar with herbs. You can make a vinegar rinse yourself too. I just prefer the Wiseways version. They have rinses for both light and dark hair. You can get Wiseways vinegar rinses at the Hair Boutique Marketplace:

www.hairboutique.com

I agree, it's great here.

I found THE Wiseways site:

http://www.wiseways.com/nhc.html

Luna Bella
May 3rd, 2003, 06:58 AM
Hi neighbor! welcome! Nice to meet you!

I'm Maricela and I also live in the Netherlands. How cool is that! :-)

I got my appelazijn at the "Tuinen" I think it was 2 Euros for a 0.75 L. Not sure!

paulien
May 3rd, 2003, 11:13 AM
Ok, bought me some lemonjuice. I like the smell of lemons. 4 bottles of 100ml. How much do i need dilute that? The same way as vinegar?
What's a cup? Little teacup or a large coffeemug?



(he dames, wie komt er nog meer uit ons mooie platte landje?)